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		<title>By: John Doheny</title>
		<link>http://jamesdanderfer.com/2009/10/practicing-musician-1/comment-page-1/#comment-18</link>
		<dc:creator>John Doheny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With me it&#039;s the recording process itself, which is extremely intimidating to me (although I&#039;m much better at dealing with this than I was, say, on my first record, which I can&#039;t stand to listen to). Something about it going on &quot;the permanent record&quot; gives me the heebie jeebies. I can hold forth all night long in live performance without giving it a second thought, beyond the normal slight edge of nerves (which I regard as a good thing), but once the tapes roll (figuratively speaking) I have to really psyche myself to not be inhibited. As Phil Woods says &quot;the red light makes cowards of us all.&quot;

Playbacks tend to re-inforce this with me, and I don&#039;t like to do a lot of listening. It sucks the air out of a session running back and forth into the booth to listen to takes, and re-inforces in my mind how much (I think) I suck. Then I get into the dreaded &#039;hamster-wheel of negative re-inforcement&#039; where I hear myself sucking, my self-esteem takes a hit, and the next take blows even worse. My preferred modus operandi in the past was to just do three complete takes of everything, put them away, and come back to it a week or two later when I had some distance and could pretend that was some other poor sod playing sax on there. Recording somewhere like the Cellar actually facilitated this since Cory (in 2006 at least) wasn&#039;t really set up in there to do playbacks.

Serependitously, on this last project I seem to have arrived, at least partially, at the kind of Kenny-Werner-Effortless-Mastery-esque style of objective workmanship you&#039;re talking about. I was able to listen to playbacks without wincing, dispassionately evaluate changes I wanted to make on the next take and generally function more effectively as my own producer, which as you know is no easy task. I was also able to evaluate aspects of my playing that I&#039;m not happy with (particularly some articulation issues that have always been with me, but that are more evident on the mouthpiece I&#039;m currenly using on tenor) and start the process of remedying them in the practise room.

I had a conversation with pianist Robert Glasper about this recently, and he gave me some good advice. &quot;Get over yourself,&quot; he said. &quot;It&#039;s got nothing to do with you.&quot; It&#039;s the music we are (or should be) here in service of, not our own transitory little egos. What I&#039;m starting to &quot;get&quot; is that listeners deep into the pudding will recognize each recording and performance for the work in progress that it is, and that people who are reflexively judgmental often lack the ears to hear the mistakes anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With me it&#8217;s the recording process itself, which is extremely intimidating to me (although I&#8217;m much better at dealing with this than I was, say, on my first record, which I can&#8217;t stand to listen to). Something about it going on &#8220;the permanent record&#8221; gives me the heebie jeebies. I can hold forth all night long in live performance without giving it a second thought, beyond the normal slight edge of nerves (which I regard as a good thing), but once the tapes roll (figuratively speaking) I have to really psyche myself to not be inhibited. As Phil Woods says &#8220;the red light makes cowards of us all.&#8221;</p>
<p>Playbacks tend to re-inforce this with me, and I don&#8217;t like to do a lot of listening. It sucks the air out of a session running back and forth into the booth to listen to takes, and re-inforces in my mind how much (I think) I suck. Then I get into the dreaded &#8216;hamster-wheel of negative re-inforcement&#8217; where I hear myself sucking, my self-esteem takes a hit, and the next take blows even worse. My preferred modus operandi in the past was to just do three complete takes of everything, put them away, and come back to it a week or two later when I had some distance and could pretend that was some other poor sod playing sax on there. Recording somewhere like the Cellar actually facilitated this since Cory (in 2006 at least) wasn&#8217;t really set up in there to do playbacks.</p>
<p>Serependitously, on this last project I seem to have arrived, at least partially, at the kind of Kenny-Werner-Effortless-Mastery-esque style of objective workmanship you&#8217;re talking about. I was able to listen to playbacks without wincing, dispassionately evaluate changes I wanted to make on the next take and generally function more effectively as my own producer, which as you know is no easy task. I was also able to evaluate aspects of my playing that I&#8217;m not happy with (particularly some articulation issues that have always been with me, but that are more evident on the mouthpiece I&#8217;m currenly using on tenor) and start the process of remedying them in the practise room.</p>
<p>I had a conversation with pianist Robert Glasper about this recently, and he gave me some good advice. &#8220;Get over yourself,&#8221; he said. &#8220;It&#8217;s got nothing to do with you.&#8221; It&#8217;s the music we are (or should be) here in service of, not our own transitory little egos. What I&#8217;m starting to &#8220;get&#8221; is that listeners deep into the pudding will recognize each recording and performance for the work in progress that it is, and that people who are reflexively judgmental often lack the ears to hear the mistakes anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: janet</title>
		<link>http://jamesdanderfer.com/2009/10/practicing-musician-1/comment-page-1/#comment-17</link>
		<dc:creator>janet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 07:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JD = Many Splendoured Onion.

Okay, well, it has potential... ;)</description>
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<p>Okay, well, it has potential&#8230; <img src='http://jamesdanderfer.com/news/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://jamesdanderfer.com/2009/10/practicing-musician-1/comment-page-1/#comment-16</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 20:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few days coming, but feel compelled to chime in none the less. 

For me, enjoyment of performance went up after no longer relying on music as my primary income. Why? Because I could play when I wanted, and play the gigs that I wanted. To take a step back, I alleviated the pressure of &lt;strong&gt;having&lt;/strong&gt; to play and more emphasis was put on &lt;strong&gt;wanting&lt;/strong&gt; to play. 

But that eventually gave way to not playing as much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few days coming, but feel compelled to chime in none the less. </p>
<p>For me, enjoyment of performance went up after no longer relying on music as my primary income. Why? Because I could play when I wanted, and play the gigs that I wanted. To take a step back, I alleviated the pressure of <strong>having</strong> to play and more emphasis was put on <strong>wanting</strong> to play. </p>
<p>But that eventually gave way to not playing as much.</p>
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		<title>By: Guy</title>
		<link>http://jamesdanderfer.com/2009/10/practicing-musician-1/comment-page-1/#comment-15</link>
		<dc:creator>Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love the new comments section!</description>
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		<title>By: Megan</title>
		<link>http://jamesdanderfer.com/2009/10/practicing-musician-1/comment-page-1/#comment-14</link>
		<dc:creator>Megan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 22:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know what an Eb7 concert is or an F7 but I&#039;ll throw this out there as a person that&#039;s in the audience rather than on stage. When musicians are relaxed and having fun the music is better. period. It doesn&#039;t matter whether a note is missed or off key because the audience is swept up in the energy of the band which translates right into the music we hear. I guess that&#039;s part of the reason the second set often seems stronger because the band has stepped away from maybe initial stage jitters or mind wandering. They&#039;ve really committed to the here and now of making music they love...and, as I said before, you can hear that joy comes through in the way they play. In the same way I&#039;ve been at concerts where the band leader thought he was the cats pajamas and played every note right..but the music didn&#039;t touch me because he didn&#039;t need anyone else, he wanted to simply bask in the glory of one...and without a doubt thats what came through in the music once more. Anyhoo, just some thoughts!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know what an Eb7 concert is or an F7 but I&#8217;ll throw this out there as a person that&#8217;s in the audience rather than on stage. When musicians are relaxed and having fun the music is better. period. It doesn&#8217;t matter whether a note is missed or off key because the audience is swept up in the energy of the band which translates right into the music we hear. I guess that&#8217;s part of the reason the second set often seems stronger because the band has stepped away from maybe initial stage jitters or mind wandering. They&#8217;ve really committed to the here and now of making music they love&#8230;and, as I said before, you can hear that joy comes through in the way they play. In the same way I&#8217;ve been at concerts where the band leader thought he was the cats pajamas and played every note right..but the music didn&#8217;t touch me because he didn&#8217;t need anyone else, he wanted to simply bask in the glory of one&#8230;and without a doubt thats what came through in the music once more. Anyhoo, just some thoughts!</p>
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		<title>By: Big chops</title>
		<link>http://jamesdanderfer.com/2009/10/practicing-musician-1/comment-page-1/#comment-13</link>
		<dc:creator>Big chops</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 20:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just want to add, I don&#039;t practice at all and I really enjoy music...just not my own!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just want to add, I don&#8217;t practice at all and I really enjoy music&#8230;just not my own!</p>
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		<title>By: james</title>
		<link>http://jamesdanderfer.com/2009/10/practicing-musician-1/comment-page-1/#comment-12</link>
		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 22:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did I mention it was Eb7 &lt;strong&gt;&lt;i&gt;concert?!&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;... Guy, that&#039;s my F7 for God&#039;s sake!  

If there was an emoticon with his head hanging in shame, I would place it right here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did I mention it was Eb7 <strong><i>concert?!</i></strong>&#8230; Guy, that&#8217;s my F7 for God&#8217;s sake!  </p>
<p>If there was an emoticon with his head hanging in shame, I would place it right here.</p>
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		<title>By: james</title>
		<link>http://jamesdanderfer.com/2009/10/practicing-musician-1/comment-page-1/#comment-11</link>
		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 22:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No Janet, you remember how I played at &lt;em&gt;16&lt;/em&gt;,...at which point I probably thought I WAS bad ass!  At 17 I was good enough to know how little I knew.

But that&#039;s besides the point, which is... it&#039;s all in the performer&#039;s head and so it doesn&#039;t really matter how the performance was received.  

I don&#039;t know.  Yeah, I guess if I always felt bad ass after playing then I would&#039;ve been happy to associate that with my image but really?... between the age of 17 and 25 that was rarely the case.  Hell, it&#039;s rarely the case &lt;strong&gt;now&lt;/strong&gt; but,... I don&#039;t give a shit so much, you know, &lt;em&gt;I care&lt;/em&gt; but,...I&#039;m a many splendoured/layered onion now.  There&#039;s lots to me.  You dig?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No Janet, you remember how I played at <em>16</em>,&#8230;at which point I probably thought I WAS bad ass!  At 17 I was good enough to know how little I knew.</p>
<p>But that&#8217;s besides the point, which is&#8230; it&#8217;s all in the performer&#8217;s head and so it doesn&#8217;t really matter how the performance was received.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know.  Yeah, I guess if I always felt bad ass after playing then I would&#8217;ve been happy to associate that with my image but really?&#8230; between the age of 17 and 25 that was rarely the case.  Hell, it&#8217;s rarely the case <strong>now</strong> but,&#8230; I don&#8217;t give a shit so much, you know, <em>I care</em> but,&#8230;I&#8217;m a many splendoured/layered onion now.  There&#8217;s lots to me.  You dig?</p>
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		<title>By: janet</title>
		<link>http://jamesdanderfer.com/2009/10/practicing-musician-1/comment-page-1/#comment-10</link>
		<dc:creator>janet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does it have to be a dichotomy: play great/bad =be great/bad? I remember how you played at 17 and it was amazing. And badass. JD = amazing/badass is an image worth cultivating, methinks. If you have other adjectives in mind, go for &#039;em.

And yes, having the right sound equipment makes all the difference, because then you aren&#039;t straining to hear yourself or be heard, but can focus on the music. Speaking of which, I need a new amp ... Any recommendations? ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does it have to be a dichotomy: play great/bad =be great/bad? I remember how you played at 17 and it was amazing. And badass. JD = amazing/badass is an image worth cultivating, methinks. If you have other adjectives in mind, go for &#8216;em.</p>
<p>And yes, having the right sound equipment makes all the difference, because then you aren&#8217;t straining to hear yourself or be heard, but can focus on the music. Speaking of which, I need a new amp &#8230; Any recommendations? <img src='http://jamesdanderfer.com/news/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 00:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re probably not &quot;supposed to&quot; suck in rehearsals, but it&#039;s better to do it there and learn from it than do it in performance, I&#039;d say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re probably not &#8220;supposed to&#8221; suck in rehearsals, but it&#8217;s better to do it there and learn from it than do it in performance, I&#8217;d say.</p>
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